Monday, November 28, 2011

Interview with the Bp. Ludwig Michael Jaklonski, of the Mariavite Old Catholics


[please forgive my poor translation]

The last, 26 meetings of the mixed committee for theological dialogue between the Roman Catholic Church and the Old Catholic Church Mariavites has held in Wloclawek.
Those who took part in the dialogue were Michael Bishop Louis Mary Jablonski (Old Catholic Church's chief bishop Mariavites RP, Bishop of the Diocese of Warsaw-Plock), Bishop Bronislaw Dembowski (Professor papal theological faculty in Warsaw). The ceremonial meeting was also attended by Bishop Piotr Libera of Plock.

CONVERSATION WITH Maria Ludwig Michael Jablonski

Rafal Kowalski: Did the deliberations of the committee bring the Roman Catholic and Mariavite Old Catholic communities nearer or more further apart?
Michael Bishop Louis Mary Jablonski: The differences remained. The Roman Catholic Church continues to uphold the decision of 1906 of excommunication St.Mary Frances Kozlowska, founder of the Mariavites. Although it was emphasized that the excommunication does not apply to now living Mariavites. We, in turn, do not accept the findings of Vatican Council I concerning the primacy and infallibility of the pope.This does not mean that there is a gulf between us. On the contrary, one and the other party are of the opinion to emphasize what is common. Mariavites and Roman Catholics recognize seven such sacraments, celebrate Mass., Adoring the Blessed Sacrament, veneration of Our Lady. At the same time celebrate Christmas, Easter and Corpus Christi. It is worth quoting the words of Mary Frances Kozlowska: "How the hope in the coming of the Messiah-King of the Jews failed, faith in the dogmas of the division of nations, so love unites all." And at the end of the meeting the committee hear words referring to the reconciliation of Christians: "We believe and confess together that reconciliation, if it occurs, is not only our human work, but primarily the work of the Holy Spirit.".

As Bishop how do you react, to seeing Roman Catholics coming to the temple to pray Mercy and Love?
- I see nothing surprising in this. They are attracted by the atmosphere of our church and know that God is one. In every temple of the Christian cross hanging reminiscent of the saving sacrifice of the Son of God. I think it dispels doubts Skępego annual pilgrimage to which a number of years stopped briefly in front of our cathedral to honor the presence of the Eucharist, the Saviour of the World. It is worth noting that our temple invariably attracts tourists and płocczan. You should have seen the crowds of participants walking holiday, which was organized recently.

Despite this, Bishop meets with Mariavites stereotypes?- Perhaps in Polish society, which is the dominant Roman Catholic church, still remembers the founder mariawityzmu only as a person was anathema, does not recognize her revelations - the work of the Grand Charity as a last resort for the world in reverence for the Blessed Sacrament and the invocation of Our Help of God. We continue to occur over time in some publications - or in the history of the parish, in which a Mariavitism - information that we heresy or sect. Mariawitom sometimes attributed to events that never took place. Here's an example. In the history of a parish located in Warsaw, was the information about the alleged burning of the church by Mariavites. By moving this matter at a meeting of the committee, Bishop Bronislaw Dembowski action and my humble self, managed to remove offensive Mariavites text. And one more thing: could hardly anyone knows, but close to us in the church of St. Bartholomew on one of the side altars placed an image of Our Lady of Perpetual Help offered by Saint. Frances Maria Kozlowska. It is our common Mother of God and let connects us all Christians.

From these negative voices on Mariavites?- Maybe there is lingering approach to minorities? Yes it is still, unfortunately, that when we see someone on the street with a different skin color, at least to wonder.But this is changing. Even in Plock, as evidenced by at least an annual week ecumenical, Catholic-mariawicka commission or pilgrimage to Skępego said. Yes, it happens that we smash the glass. But I hope it's only a hooligan behavior.

It is difficult to maintain such a large church?
- It is not easy. Effort to maintain the Temple of Mercy and Love with the monastery complex is incumbent upon all the faithful of our Church. In Plock, there are about a hundred. In 2014 we will celebrate our centenary building of the cathedral, and I hope that by then we will get sufficient funds to complete renovation of the monument. Needed are a lot of money, but I always have to have hope. Therefore I would like to express my gratitude to the authorities for the renovation of the existing Plock installation illuminating the dome of the temple and for bearing the costs of its maintenance. Due to these acts of vandalism I hope also that will be installed close monitoring.

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